tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4459752770842382924.post7509099821566791027..comments2023-09-28T02:28:29.511-07:00Comments on WSR Photography: The Photo that got me in troubleWSR Photographyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02578476190552952347noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4459752770842382924.post-28661263735568688342007-09-13T13:05:00.000-07:002007-09-13T13:05:00.000-07:00I wonder if they would have bothered you if you sa...I wonder if they would have bothered you if you sat there and painted a picture? hahaL E Provosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03716837249468168459noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4459752770842382924.post-79812197784017535662007-09-07T14:42:00.000-07:002007-09-07T14:42:00.000-07:00Paul, thanks for the comment. I'm trying to find t...Paul, thanks for the comment. I'm trying to find the book locally, and may end up ordering it on-line. After doing some research I'm working on an update essay to the first one. After two e-mail to the State Ferry folks I finally wrote their security office with a cc to the Governor's office for answers. I'll keep ya'll posted, probably on the newest essay.WSR Photographyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578476190552952347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4459752770842382924.post-4553691049282045532007-09-06T14:50:00.000-07:002007-09-06T14:50:00.000-07:00Very interesting. I just got finished reading my ...Very interesting. I just got finished reading my Photographer's Legal Guide that I bought at http://photoattorney.com. The police can not compel you to give up the camera and memory card or search you unless they have a warrant and only the police can detain you without having witnessed an actual crime, so it would hold up in court. <BR/><BR/>I'm going to get that tee-shirt, though. I've never been stopped, but I have been leered at! :-)Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00794079257866559509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4459752770842382924.post-79415701420518143892007-08-28T21:51:00.000-07:002007-08-28T21:51:00.000-07:00I am working on the site and some of them contain ...I am working on the site and some of them contain nudity so I have them hidden unless you click on the subject or the link.<BR/><BR/>Thank You though, I am glad you enjoyed them. Let us know if you have anymore issues with them.<BR/><BR/>(if you still have issues with my site, let me know what browser you are using please, thanks.)Insomniac Studioshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13293585750621339264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4459752770842382924.post-64923091744102982222007-08-26T15:14:00.000-07:002007-08-26T15:14:00.000-07:00Thanks for the response. The first time the Captai...Thanks for the response. The first time the Captain held me from disembarking (his authority) until I explained and showed him the images. The second time the WSP (authority on docks) flagged me to park and the officer came up to the window.<BR/><BR/>After taking my license, he returned where he wanted to see the images. I set the camera up where he could scroll through them in my sight so I saw the camera the whole time. I wasn't about to hand a $4K camera to someone to walk away.<BR/><BR/>I haven't decide if I'll photograph on the ferry on my the trip next week. I hate touristy images and like photographing the people and real stuff of the ferry. But with the tension over the recent incident, I don't know.<BR/><BR/>I'm tempted to photograph again if only to make an issue of the contradiction with WSF's public and private policy about photographers, but the last thing I want is to be sitting in an office being asked questions and wondering where my camera went. But the worst case is the format card or delete all button.<BR/><BR/>I like your images, but sometimes the images don't show on some pages, only when you go to the individual post.WSR Photographyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578476190552952347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4459752770842382924.post-45381816253786781602007-08-25T21:53:00.000-07:002007-08-25T21:53:00.000-07:00I will have the photos I shot online soon, just go...I will have the photos I shot online soon, just got back from that trip and have almost 3000 photos to go through and edit. :) <BR/><BR/>A lot of my work is artistic nudes/fetish work, so I won't post a link to my gallery here, but like I said I will have a section up for just my latest trip. I am on Flickr if you want to look up Insomniac Studios.<BR/><BR/>Where you still on the boat when he asked to see them? I have just had bad experiences with things of that nature in my area (St. Louis) but we are not known for being kind and helpful in our neck of the woods either. I am sure if they were polite about it, I would have no issue either, but I would not let the camera out of my site. In some places how I look either gets me to much attention or I am left alone big time or so I have been noticing.Insomniac Studioshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13293585750621339264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4459752770842382924.post-75855992743622800072007-08-25T13:25:00.000-07:002007-08-25T13:25:00.000-07:00Laura, thanks for the links. I heard about the inc...Laura, thanks for the links. I heard about the incident shortly afterward. WA State Patrol officer was professional in asking questions, explaining the situation as an overzealous Ferry employee. <BR/><BR/>And as noted in the comments on the linked Web page, it's the accumulation of "suspicious" activity that really counts, but it's clear to me from the media people who appear ot be of Middle Eastern decent have one strike against them - as written about in the recent NYPD report on radicalization.<BR/><BR/>What's curious is that with all the video cameras on a ferry, they didn't need to request help from the community, unless the two men weren't readily known or their identities in law enforcement or immigration databases. For all anyone knew they could have been maritime engineers. After all everything on a ferry boat is clearly labelled for everyone to see.<BR/><BR/>As for showing the images to the officer, I don't have a problem if they are professional, and both times I've been asked (once by the Captain and the recent incident) they have apologized, as one said, "just another dumb professional photographer." I'll take that all the way off the boat, thank you.<BR/><BR/>As for your photos, I'm curious what you were photographing. Any galleries on-line? The problem isn't people taking a lot of photos, but ones of the infrastructure of the boat that creates the interest in you.<BR/><BR/>As for their "right" to ask for the camera, I sure wouldn't want to test it in court. The Captain has the authority on board the ferry and the State Patrol has it on the docks. Saying no is not an option unless you want to be detained, which they can do if you refuse.WSR Photographyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578476190552952347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4459752770842382924.post-17035431741731477102007-08-25T10:11:00.000-07:002007-08-25T10:11:00.000-07:00Personally I would have refused to give up my came...Personally I would have refused to give up my camera or show them any of the photos, he had no right to ask to see them or to take your camera.<BR/><BR/>This is becoming a big problem in most big cities, I was just on the ferry to Seattle on Tuesday and I was taking all kinds of photos. Thankfully I was not stopped, stared at or bothered in anyway. I have had problems in my own town though, St. Louis, so much so that I made up a t-shirt through cafepress to wear while walking around the city taking photos, it simply says "I am a photographer, not a terrorist"Insomniac Studioshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13293585750621339264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4459752770842382924.post-52244632416222539232007-08-24T10:10:00.000-07:002007-08-24T10:10:00.000-07:00Hmmm...have you read anything about the FBI invest...Hmmm...have you read anything about the FBI investigating some alleged terrorists who they thought seemed a little too interested in the Ferries in Washington State? (http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/thebigblog/archives/120406.asp)<BR/><BR/>I hope you're not the one they've got their eyes on!Laurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12197052988990955699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4459752770842382924.post-70869953661230653112007-08-14T14:24:00.000-07:002007-08-14T14:24:00.000-07:00Thanks for the comments. I like the idea of a "pre...Thanks for the comments. I like the idea of a "press" pass, maybe a "Freelance photographer pass" or similar might work. I've e-mailed the WA Ferry folks again for answers to why.<BR/><BR/>My van is a basic 4WD early 90's VW van with no curtains in the windows to hide anything, so it's easy to see everything. The workers were sooo obvious trying to disguise their walks by and glances in because they didn't look in any other vehicles.<BR/><BR/>And the WA State Patrol folks were cool and apologized. I don't have a problem letting them see the photos. The guy knew it was a $5K camera/lens so was careful. I just wonder what they would do in the days of film? Conviscate something they can't prove that isn't illegal?WSR Photographyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578476190552952347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4459752770842382924.post-79658242863893851592007-08-14T09:44:00.000-07:002007-08-14T09:44:00.000-07:00I would have refused to let the cop see my camera ...I would have refused to let the cop see my camera without a search warrant or court order.<BR/><BR/>Recently, a warves cop in Galveston TX confiscated a photographer's memory card after he was seen photographing a train. The photog was using a pro camera. This is a tourist town, and no one is ever stopped from shooting with a P&S or camera phone.<BR/><BR/>These cops are really stupid and need to be told so. I have made up a PRESS photo ID which I wear. They leave me alone.The Heretichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08777075853785853780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4459752770842382924.post-58096759386739206452007-08-14T09:30:00.000-07:002007-08-14T09:30:00.000-07:00It was probably the combo van/photog that set them...It was probably the combo van/photog that set them off. Vans are automatically suspicious 'cause who knows what manner of secret surveillance equipment is hidden away in there! An alternative strategy might have been to throw open the back doors, call everyone over for an inspection and hand out your b-cards to one and all. <BR/><BR/>Ferrys are the coolest things. I've only been on a few. My favorite thus far: the Gifford ferry in Inland Washington.Daisyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00151689729555956103noreply@blogger.com